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Post by PassionsFan on Apr 25, 2004 17:24:13 GMT -5
I'm not Really sure which one he is. who do you think it is.
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Post by chickiepoo on Apr 25, 2004 17:57:50 GMT -5
I think it's Chad, but somehow that seems to be a bit obvious-everything points to him in my opinion. Isn't John the guy who thinks Grace is his mother?
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Post by PassionsFan on Apr 25, 2004 18:03:30 GMT -5
Yes, but someone else had pointed out that mabey the thing that Ivy had on david in order for him to do what she said was that David had kidnapped eve and julians son from the hospital and had raised him as john. Because for john to be graces son then he would have to be older than all of graces kids including noah. And noah would have to be in his fourth or fifth year of college by now so that would make John atleast like 24 years old for that to work.
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Post by chickiepoo on Apr 25, 2004 18:07:43 GMT -5
Very good point. I never thought of that.
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Post by PassionsAddict on May 24, 2004 12:19:38 GMT -5
Everything is a possibility, but I remember one episode in which Alistair states something about Chad not knowing that his real parents are Eve and Julian. (Or Eve and Julian not knowing that their son is Chad) At the same time that he burns the evidence and drops it into the trash can.
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Post by Valerie on May 24, 2004 21:11:39 GMT -5
Yes, but someone else had pointed out that mabey the thing that Ivy had on david in order for him to do what she said was that David had kidnapped eve and julians son from the hospital and had raised him as john. Because for john to be graces son then he would have to be older than all of graces kids including noah. And noah would have to be in his fourth or fifth year of college by now so that would make John atleast like 24 years old for that to work. For the longest time I thought that John Hastings was Julian & Eve's son for the same reasons that you mentioned in your post. But, now I think Julian & Eve's son is Ethan. Alistair made some comments recently to Julian stating his son was closer to him than he thinks. The only person who is closer to Julian is Ethan since he is still living at the Crane mansion. At the Founder's day ball Alistair made another comment to himself about Julian having a son. For awhile there I thought it could have been possible that Julian & Eve had a daughter and that was Sheridan. Keep in mind that JER loves doing twists that viewers never saw coming. The twist that I have come up with is very complicated but, it makes a lot of sense. I think Julian & Eve's relationship ended very close to his marriage that began with Ivy. I think Alistair found out about Sam & Ivy's affair and he decided to take that child away from Ivy since that child would not be a Crane. Of course we all know that Alistair knew of Julian & Eve's child and I think he had that baby kidnapped. Since the baby turned out to look white I think Alistair decided to keep the baby and have the baby raised as a Crane. I think the baby that David Hastings raised is the son of Sam & Ivy. But of course Alistair knew where all the babies were and as long as Sam & Ivy's secret didn't come out then he could keep this secret and Ethan could continue to be a Crane. But when Sam & Ivy's secret came out that they had a son together then there was no way that Alistair was going to let everyone know the truth that Ethan really is a Crane because that means that he would have to admit to the whole world know that he had a black grandchild and Alistair don't want nobody to know that. I think in Alstair's own twisted way he probably got a kick out of grooming Ethan as a Crane even though he was Julian & Eve's child. Also, this twist could also be a great storyline for Sam & Ivy because Ivy always loved Ethan more than her other children. Will Ivy stop loving Ethan if she finds out that he is Julian & Eve's child? Will she be able to love John since he is her son with Sam? At this point I think Julian & Eve's child is either Ethan if they really had a boy and Sheridan if they really had a girl.
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Post by chickiepoo on May 30, 2004 11:31:49 GMT -5
I thought your idea was kind of crazy at first (VALERIE) but after I read the reasons , it does make sense and I can't wait to find out who it actually is.
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Post by Valerie on May 30, 2004 20:47:33 GMT -5
I thought your idea was kind of crazy at first (VALERIE) but after I read the reasons , it does make sense and I can't wait to find out who it actually is. Have you noticed how Ethan is now having conversations with Eve for entire episodes? Remember when Eve was crying in her car and Ethan found her and they started talking. I thought that was kind of weird since Ethan and Eve never really had any conversations that went beyond "hi, how are you, & bye." Also, Julian keeps telling Eve that he will find their son this year so I am thinking that the truth about their son is going to come out sometime this year. And Ethan is still disappointed in Julian. Julian has never really gotten over losing Ethan as a son and I think Ethan is Julian's child with Eve. Julian is going to be overjoyed when he finds out that the son that he loved and raised is his child with the woman that he loves. Plus Ivy still got what she wanted. She didn't want her child to be influenced by the Cranes and David Hastings did a good job at raising John. John is a good person. Also, I think this could be a cool twist because Sam will now become the parent to John instead of Grace. At this point I think John Hastings and Chad Harris are way too obvious to be the child of Julian and Eve. Just keep watching how Ethan interacts with both Julian and Eve. That's how I came up with this possible twist that could turn out to be true.
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